said, we need to be more aggressive with the sanctions, frankly with the europe mean allies including germany. and we need to dial up the heat. it's the message that gets sent to russia with respect to iran. it's the message with respect to syria. it's the message sent to russia with respect to the nuclear arms negotiation and defense. it has a cascading effect. if you show a bully weakness, and you give them weakness, they'll take it. >> where do you stand in the right year for substantively take that on? >> i'm a supporter of reform, mark, but we're not going to get it done this year. it's going to fill into 2014. unfortunately. republicans should, if you're going to talk the talk of being the working class if we have a minimum wage, it should be reasonably adjusts from time to time, for all the republicans who talk about we're the blue color and for the workers there should be basic things that they're for, and that's one of them increases in the minimum wage. >> before we go, you heard the conversation, i won't talk about everything you guys discussed. but jeb bush, is jeb going have to t